A concertgoer is disconcerted by David Geffen’s seats

A concertgoer is disconcerted by David Geffen’s seats

Orchestras

norman lebrecht

November 08, 2023

We have received this report from David Kiser, Host and Producer on South Carolina Public Radio:

Review: Mälkki Conducts Pictures at an Exhibition, New York Philharmonic, November 2-4, 2023

-Two tickets, $200, Orchestra Right, Rear, a balmy Saturday evening in NYC.

Do I hate the vibrating floral seats that badly? That is the question I asked myself after a visit to the revamped David Geffen Hall to hear, at least on paper, a spectacular program with a little of everything: Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 arranged for cimbalom and Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition; to Ligeti’s Piano Concerto; and a bit of folk: Bartok’s Romanian Folk Dances all led by the acclaimed Finnish conductor Susanna Mälkki.

Jenő Lisztes opened the concert with solo cimbalom in his arrangement of the Liszt. His virtuosic playing elicited the biggest applause of the evening, with many rising to their feet. But the Philharmonic couldn’t match his energy when it was their turn in Bartok’s Romanian Dances. Mälkki’s tempos plodded. There was slack in the line, so to speak. Lisztes’ cimbalom Liszt simply out stamped them.

Ligeti’s Piano Concerto draws upon his piano etudes for figurations and themes, notably from his best etude Autumn in Warsaw. If you were familiar with this work before the concert you’d likely find more to enjoy. The effort expended by Mälkki and the orchestra to keep the African inspired polyrhythms in sync with each other was stupendous. Soloist Pierre-Laurent Aimard imbued the austere chords and motifs with grace as if he were playing Mozartian two-note phrases. He is a terrific concerto soloist, generously giving regular visual cues to Mälkki and melding into the texture when required. In return the percussionists matched him wonderfully. There were whistles and wood blocks and then in the slow movement unbearable bars of half-step nothingness. But the overall effect was a lot of effort expended for little reward, even for Ligeti lovers like me. This selection was part of the Ligeti centennial celebration during the fall concert season, but the audience couldn’t have appreciated it less; no sooner had the last chord sounded, Mälkki pointing her baton straight up in the air, came the immediate evacuation of David Geffen Hall. I was hoping for an encore, perhaps that Autumn in Warsaw etude, but alas Aimard wasn’t called out, despite Mälkki clapping vigorously on stage as if to conduct us in our poor conduct, but the audience had spoken—with their backs. Here I’ll mention some balance issues, despite Aimard’s best efforts and pungent Steinway D front and center, he was often swallowed by the orchestra.

My main problem with Mälkki’s rendition of Pictures was I could not detect a sense of purpose or vision. With a big standard piece like this and a world class technical machine like the New York Philharmonic the world is your oyster of what you can do with these stupendous resources. Like the Bartok, there was slack in the line; a static-ness pervaded most movements. Acoustical problems presented themselves with whole sections of the orchestra not being heard in the pianissimo pictures. The promenades were not swift trots from picture to picture, but slow slogs across Met sized galleries. Occasionally a soloist or section would try to push the envelope, commandeering their breathtaking turn and when it was over, ho hum returned. It was Mussorgsky at his most banal, sadly not the cutting-edge rule breaker of pedanticism, the ex-military mind of believable bombast.

About the seats: The rose printed seats in David Geffen Hall are connected to each other. If your seatmate is so moved by the music and decides to dance in their chair, you’ll move with them. You’ll be forced to move with them that is, and not necessarily on the beat either.

–David Kiser

Comments

  • Mark says:

    Sounds like a long night of disappointment.

  • ParallelFifths says:

    That program bill sounds incredible. What are they saying a little closer to NYC than, er, South Carolina?

    • David says:

      That’s why I attended!
      I suppose I should have sat a few feet closer?

      • Bone says:

        I’m detecting a whiff of dismissal from Parallel5ths: “No offense, but can we get a word from someone of the proper class to actually understand a concert of this stature – rather than words of a bumpkin from the Carolinas.”
        Or maybe I’m misinterpreting.

  • John Kelly says:

    Well the review of Pictures is completely at odds with the reviews in the NYT and NewYorkClassicalReview.com. I wasn’t there, but I believe he’s right about the sound and I suspect (from his comments about the vibrating seats) that he was sitting downstairs (always a mistake in this hall, the only good seats for sound are upstairs in the middle, that was always true). Those seats don’t vibrate trust me.

  • drummerman says:

    When I saw a picture of the hall with those seats, my first reaction was: “That pattern must be very distracting for the musicians on stage looking out, if there are empty seats.”

  • Joel Stein says:

    Perhaps he should travel with a barcalounger (with cup holder).

  • Tiredofitall says:

    The seats are just fine….and I’m curmudgeon about such things. I was apprehensive about the floral design, but I have to say, it is quite nice and not disconcerting.

    Nothing to look at here…

    • kaa says:

      totally agree. No one mentions the fact that they are really comfortable

    • Carl says:

      The seats are pretty uncomfortable for those of us over 6 feet tall. Lincoln Center skimped on leg room to squeeze more ticket-buyers in. Especially a shame when other halls are going for reclining seats, drink holders, etc.

      • Nydo says:

        I’m 6’3″, and the seats are fine for me. They are also far more comfortable than the majority of seats in Carnegie Hall or Symphony Hall in Boston.

  • Scott Fruehwald says:

    I sat in the second tier so I don’t know about the vibrating seat. Otherwise, I disagree with you completely. It was a wonderful concert. The NY Times review got it right.

    The sound in the new hall is wonderful, although I have not yet sat in the orchestra.

    Larry. So far, the concerts have sold very well in the new hall so I doubt the musicians have had any problems

  • just saying says:

    I bet the seats vibrate for the same reason they do in Carnegie Hall…subway cars passing by…

    • MWnyc says:

      Yes, that’s why. You get used to it when you live here.
      Mostly.

      (Tip: always sit on the left side of the house at Zankel Hall at Carnegie.)

    • Nydo says:

      You don’t get any subway vibration in Geffen Hall. The method of construction isolates it acoustically.

  • Rick Whitaker says:

    With the cheapest seat in the house priced at $150 you’re not gonna get many Ligeti-loving types.

  • OSF says:

    The Philharmonic crowd has long been pretty conservative – people walking out on things like Nielsen 4 or in one case supposedly walking out on Turangalila (or may “L’Eclairs”) as Messiaen sat in their row. No surprise that they wouldn’t warm to Ligeti; probably has to go to Cleveland, of all places – or maybe LA – to get a better reception for that.

    • MWnyc says:

      Lots of us liked Le Grand Macabre when Alan Gilbert conducted the NY Phil in it. It sold rather well, if memory serves.

      For whatever that’s worth …

    • BeanTown says:

      One recalls the Previn/LA Philharmonic performance of Shostakovich 4th Symphony at Avery Fisher hall (circa 1989-90). After the 1st movement, many audience members fled for the exits, while Previn just stared at the audience with his arms folded, shaking his head in disgust.

  • Have higher than double digit IQ says:

    It is disheartening to witness the departure from the classical charm and elegance that once defined the New York Philharmonic. The artistic choices, both in programming and presentation, seem to have veered away from the sublime experiences of the past, leaving us with a yearning for the days of Weber, Rossini, and Verdi kicking off a program. We now find ourselves constantly constrained to endure the discordant strains of a mediocre atonal composition or a piece written by a historically marginalized composer on each program.

    Am I the sole observer disturbed by the discernible alteration in the visual presentation? The musicians, garbed in monochromatic black attire, fail to capture the refined elegance reminiscent of bygone eras when gentlemen adorned themselves in white tie and tails, and ladies graced the stage in evening gowns, or, during daytime performances, in the case of men, a suit paired with a long tie, and for women, dresses. This aesthetic departure, coupled with the suboptimal acoustics and unconventional seating arrangements at David Geffen Hall, collectively engendered an experience bereft of its erstwhile enchantment.

  • Nydo says:

    I’ve heard the NY Philharmonic with Malkki in four series now, and they all were uniformly disappointing. Try again with a conductor that they have a better track record with, buy a seat in one of the tiers (third tier is fine now), and don’t base you choice on what the NY Times critics say at this point. My recommendation would be for the program with Hrusa conducting in the second week of January, or the program with Noseda conducting from January 31st through February 3rd.

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