Barenboim links Israel to rising anti-semitismNews
From a New Year’s Day interview with Austrian media:
Can you explain why anti-Semitism is so prevalent again?
No. Anti-Semitism cannot be explained. There are many attempts at explanation. Christian anti-Semitism, European nationalism in the 19th century, which prepared the Nazi era. But you can’t explain anti-Semitism. It also exists in places where there are no Jews.
Not even left anti-Semitism, which disguises itself as anti-Israelism?
This is a different chapter, I wouldn’t mix it up! This is not about left or right, but about the Israeli government. It has made, and continues to do, a certain policy that is likely to provoke anti-Semitism. Some Israeli governments have done some things that are not humanly acceptable. You see, I am decidedly critical of some aspects of Israeli government policy! Zionism started in Vienna with Theodor Herzl, as a Zionist dream, and it was a wonderful dream for a people who had been persecuted for centuries. For centuries. Worldwide. You have to understand that. But what came after that? A lie.
Israel’s founding is based on a lie?
Yes. It read “a land without a people for a people without a land”. That’s a lie. In World War I, the proportion of Jews in Palestine was nine percent! How can you say the country was empty when 91 percent of those who lived there weren’t Jews?
What conclusions do you draw from this?
This is a problem of depth psychology: you have a wonderful dream, then you wake up. And if you always lie to yourself when you wake up, you have to see a psychiatrist.
And how do you solve the murderous conflict between Israel and Palestine?
You have to bring the two together by civilized methods, and certainly most of the responsibility rests on the Israeli side because Israel was the one who ousted the Palestinians. Both are to blame for the conflict, but it cannot be that the majority in Israel thinks that the conquest of Palestine is something positive! That was 54 years ago, and we can keep adding up what the Palestinians have done. But there is a minority, albeit a tiny minority, in Israel that understands that what you have done yourself is not right. You have to find a dialogue! It is not acceptable that two peoples want to live here for themselves, if possible each without the other. That will not do! This country has always been home to different peoples.
You are a great pacifist.
I am not a pacifist. All I know is that what the Israelis and Palestinians are doing now is leading to disaster. You don’t have to be a pacifist to do that.
Full interview here.