Breaking: Italian clarinetist, 57, dies after receiving Covid jab
mainItalian media have identified a man who died hours after receiving the AstraZeneca vaccine against Covid-19.
He is Sandro Tognatti, 57, a clarinetist in the RAI orchestra of Turin and professor at the Conservatory of Novara.
UPDATE: His wife has issued a statement
UPDATE2:
Professor Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford vaccine group which developed the Oxford-AstraZeneca jab, has said “safety is clearly absolutely paramount” and no link had been found between the vaccine and blood clots. He was speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today programme after several European countries suspended use of the coronavirus vaccine over concerns about possible side effects.
I have had AZ x 2 and I am fine.
Good for you. Now what about long term?
The headline insinuates that Mr Tognatti’s death is connected to his vaccination with AstraZeneca.
In turbulent times like these, with so many artists without employment, this headline is shameless, and embarrassing.
Yes it is, but…take a look at today’s news and see how many countries have at least suspended the use of Astra Zenica, with a too frequent incidence of blood clotting after injection being reported in places like Norway, and after two deaths in Sicily related to it before Tognatti. So Italy joins the list.
I am very pro-vaccine, and awaiting my turn here in Canada (where rollout has been slower than in the UK. But I am hoping to be assigned another type — if we are even using AZ — and of not I may pass.
Poor man. I have had that vaccine with no problem…… I hope. Sympathy to his family.
According to BBC News site today some 3,000 people die from blood clots so it is difficult to blame the vaccine
Ahyes, the esteemed BBC who helped give us the Iraq war and also the thoroughly discredited Syrian “poison gas” episodes…
My friend died an hour after eating a bowl of Oatmeal. Oatmeal is obviously bad for you.
Oh, I forgot to mention; he was hit by a bus.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc.
In view of the tragedy to befall the clarinettist and his family, irrespective of the cause of his death, this response is really in very BAD taste.
Norm,
Please stop unnecessarily fear-mongering. Love the rest of your content, though!
All the best,
Kevin
Apparently a bad batch. (According to the Telegraph: you have to scroll down a bit to find the reference to Tognatti.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-astrazeneca-vaccine-pensioners-lockdown-cases/).
Another vaccine horror story.
I, for one, flatly refuse to be ‘vaccinated’. Another big covid con.
Hi Simon I don’t want the vaccine (any of them) either but we are in the minority unfortunately. Don’t give up!
Sorry the man died, but a Covid shot “connection” should not be mentioned in this manner until medical authorities investigate the event and come to some conclusions. People die of a lot of things all the time, but deaths from Covid vaccines are extremely rare to non-existent.
Confirmed deaths from Covid Vaccine: 0
Confirmed deaths from Covid: 2.6 million
Haha! That’s rich!
I’d much rather that we could stick to matters musical on these pages. The discussions are varied and interesting.
If anyone is still in doubt over this matter then I suggest they refer to Prof. David Spiegelhalter’s article in today’s Guardian.
It says it all and very sensibly and without hysteria.Read it and go and get vaccinated then perhaps we can all be in with a chance of working again sometime soon.
Thank you!
You mean the Guardian partly funded by the Bill and Melissa Gates Foundation?
QAnon hits Slipped Disc?? I never thought I’d see the day. This makes me so sad, the thought that people with pickled intellects are finding an outlet here.
Prof. Spiegelhaler is an eminent and independent scientist and statistician who advises the government whether or not they like what he says and take any notice.
I despair, I really do.
There’s your “QAnon”. There’s plenty more evidence of their funding.
https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/revealed-a-guardian-website-receives-millions-in-funding-from-the-bill-melinda-gates-foundation/
I did read Spiegelhaler and it was reasonable except for one thing. “Trials are short and comparatively small, and tend to include healthy people, so we need to collect real world data as the vaccines are rolled out.”
Sure seems like he’s inferring that the public are the real trials. Guinea pigs.
What could possibly go wrong?
Not exactly unbiased and neutral is it? I still despair of anyone who relies on that sort of news site.
Clearly no point in asking anything else of Hayne. Too far gone.
I suggest readers check the UNN site and its members and modus operandi for themselves.
Sinister or what?
How about the Guardian itself?
https://www.theguardian.com/info/2018/oct/02/philanthropic-partnerships-at-the-guardian
How about Gates foundation money going to the following…BBC, NPR, NBC, Al Jazeera, ProPublica, National Journal, New York Times, Univision, Medium, The Financial Times, The Atlantic, The Texas Tribune, Gannett, Washington Monthly, Le Monde, Center for Investigative Reporting, Pulitzer Center, National Press Foundation, International Center for Journalists and others.
Notice a pattern here:)
https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
Although it may not have had anything to do with the vaccine.
However, from time to time, like for every other substance in this world, we may encounter someone, probably one in several tens of thousands, who is just very allergic.
May his family find peace.
They don’t administer the vaccine if there are any allergies, certainly not in Italy or the UK. You have to have it done in a main hospital if the patient insists.
You are correct Maria. I am allergic to lots of medicine so would not take the Pfizer and have the Oxford Astra Zenica instead.
I’ve heard it said that no governments or vaccine producers are offering compensation to the families of any person who dies shortly after receiving a vaccine – is that correct?
Why should they? You have to prove the death was because of the vaccine and not that he would have died anyhow. A post mortem will need to be done and a proper cause of death, not scaremongering on here.
In the US, yes.
https://www.marsh.com/us/insights/research/covid-19-liability-immunity-under-prep-act.html
Sinister. Reminds me of that 1978 film, Coma.
I knew a man who ate bacon and eggs for breakfast and then died in a car accident a few hours later. We need to stop people driving; it kills people. And it’s linked to the consumption of bacon and eggs.
Here is a related article on post-injection deaths, including Mr. Tognatti’s, which also has a petition if one wishes to sign. However much one may “beLIEve” in something, proper investigations are always a good thing.
https://www.unite4truth.com/post/italy-seize-400-000-astrazeneca-vaccines-manslaughter-case-moderna-pfizer-produce-same-side-effect