Concertmaster struggles with being Christian and gay
mainThe Manchester Camerata has commissioned a film about its co-leader Caroline Pether, whose became a Christian as a teenager before discovering that she is gay.
‘I was in a church community that had very black and white views on homosexuality and believed it was sinful and should be prayed away,’ she tells local media.
Members of the orchestra accompany her through this filmed journey. The music is by Haydn, Pärt, Strauss and Harbison, ‘This episode aims to take the audience on a journey from shame, despair and loneliness through to the place where I find myself now in acceptance, peace and celebration,’ she says.
Caroline joined the Camerata in 2013 on graduating from the Royal Northern College and was promoted to co-leader two years later. She is also leader of Sinfonia Cymru and a member of the Zelkova Quartet.
Watch here from Thursday.
Join another church with a gay priest!!!
Down with this sort of thing. Careful now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-F2HKLzB6c
Indeed, or a tolerant, inclusive church with a ‘straight’ (or gay) priest – of which there are many. I wish I was surprised to read of Ms Pether’s experiences, but I’m not. That said, there are many, many Christians who see no kind of sin in homosexuality, but do see sin in judgemental attitudes based on some often dodgy interpretations of the Bible. Certainly she has my full sympathy.
I’m leaving before they make it compulsory!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h82D5ZvcALM
Give us all a break. I can remember the days when being “gay” meant, jolly, full of beans. It means summat else today. Many of them are depressives.
The reason gay people suffer disproportionately from abuse, depression, and suicide is because of people like you. You are the one ruining the word “gay”.
There is no Adam and Steve in the Garden of Eden!
Adam and Steve have a much more fabulous garden.
Lotta different kinds of fruits in the Garden?
Because there were no fruit trees and so, no opportunities for sinning.
Where did the apple come from, then?
Bob, being gay is not a choice. Being ignorant is. Do not pick and choose from the Bible.
‘Ignorance is a precious flower. Touch it and the bloom is gone.’ Oscar Wilde
It’ll never get better if you pick it!
Adam and Steve would not have hidden their nakedness from God, they would’ve encouraged Big Daddy to join them.
That would be _Steven_, of course. Metre and rhyme, you know. More proof that the conversation will be better in hell.
I wouldn’t wish the torment of growing up knowing there was something ‘wrong’ with you (according to others) on my worst enemy. I hope you, Bob, never have to endure the terror, shame, guilt, confusion, disgust, embarrassment, self-loathing and wretchedness that views such as yours cause in children. Go out and educate yourself please.
Do not attempt to rob people of their victimhood. You’ll be confronted by baseball bats.
Sue, I’m curious, in real life are you as unpleasant and small-minded as you come across in this forum?
Yes I always wonder how she is in real life…I hope better things happen in her life so she can let go of her irrational bitterness
I am 99% sure Sue is a guy. And a rather misogynistic one at that. He uses the name Sue Sonata Form as a way to mock feminist musicologist Susan McClary. I’ve noticed “Sue” immediately sides with anyone accused of rape or other forms of sexual abuse. McClary attracted a lot of hate from incels and other misogynists because she dared use a metaphor about rape whilst writing about Beethoven 9.
There is no such thing as a ‘feminist musicologist.” She and the late RBG would have gotten along well. This is just scholarly PC pandering.
I wonder if she is a sock puppet.
The word, like ‘stoned,’ no longer is used as it was intended.
Why a label about everything nowadays? As long as Caroline is an inspirational musician is all that matters! (Oh yes. Arts Council England need boxes that have to be ticked.)
LOL. Right… because there is such a shortage of gay people in the performing arts
Wouldn’t it be lovely, if she lived in a world in which such a label were unnecessary: where she could just live her life as she is, without anyone harassing her, threatening her, making her feel like she is less of a human, making her feel as if she is going to suffer eternal damnation for who she is.
She doesn’t.
That said, I’m glad that you wrote that what matters is that she is an inspirational musician. That is far more enlightened than many others.
“Tick box exercise” regarding ACE, was a sarcastic throwaway line. As long as she is an inspirational musician doesn’t matter what God she follows or sexual orientation! Humour on SD is sadly lacking.
One impediment to humor on SD, or at least the recognition thereof, is the presence of trolls and people with truly bigoted viewpoints. Posts that might be so outlandish as to be hilarious satire elsewhere, are posted here in bigoted earnest.
The hatred posted by certain commenters on SD, are a microcosm of the hatred in the real world.
One thing that saddens me, is that more than a few of these haters are representative of members of the audience when I perform. My hope is that they are vastly outnumbered by others with love and tolerance in their hearts.
It’s a pleasure to converse with someone who does not hold those ugly viewpoints.
https://xkcd.com/1984/
Also, look up Poe’s Law.
Basically, you can’t expect people to detect humor on the internet unless you explicitly point it out. That does take a lot of the fun out of it, but otherwise someone is bound to take you seriously.
Superficial, generalizational labels which at best cover 10% of the subject, prevent average ignorant people from any understanding. Stamping people’s amorous tastes with such distorting labels is one of the main reasons of discrimination. And the labels were invented only some 50 and 150 years ago. Before that, such natural variations were ‘sin’, and before Christianity took hold, there was no term for it, in spite of the high intellectual and linguistic level of Antiquity.
Any form of discrimination results from the need of unhappy people to be able to look down on others, so that they can feel a little bit better themselves. It may be Jews, blacks, immigrants, women, gays, communists, dentists, undertakers, civil servants, viola players, music critics, – the list is endless.
It’s sad when a person’s religion, which (one would think) should be a source of strength and comfort, rejects them because of something that has nothing to do with whether they’re a good person.
The problem is that certain parts of the Christian and Islam religion don’t acknowledge Nature.
One condition you are born with, the other condition you are suckered into, if you’re gonna take opium (of the masses), take the real stuff.