Unlucky Israel Phil is disrupted by climate change
NewsThe Israel Philharmonic Orchestra concluded its US west coast concerts on Monday, only to be told that both of their next stops in Florida had cancelled their concerts in the face of Hurricane Nicole.
The orchestra flew on to Cleveland where they have three days off (any local tips?).
On Saturday they will play Prokofiev at Severance Hall and on Monday at Carnegie Hall. This will mark Lahav Shani’s debut at both venues.
The correct term is Global Warming, “climate change” implying what’s happening is not caused by us and is something benign and casual which is the direct opposite of the truth.
It is God’s punishment on mankind.
Or maybe man’s petulance towards nature?
Sources?
Same ones you’d have access to.
It’s a disputed topic, but indeed, more and more organisations are making the change. The Guardian, for instance, has a policy of using “global heating”, to reflect the fact that the Earth is rising in temperature and that those rises are accelerating.
Which is amusing in a way, because it was around a decade or so that The People Who Decide These Things urged a change from the phrase “global warming” to “climate change” — apparently in the belief that every time there was an unusual spell of particularly cold weather or heavy snowfall, people took the claim of “global warming” less seriously.
The Atlantic hurricane season lasts until the end of this month. The US’s National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration has this to say about the link to human activities and hurricanes in the Atlantic:
“In summary, it is premature to conclude with high confidence that human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have caused a change in past Atlantic basin hurricane activity that is outside the range of natural variability, although greenhouse gases are strongly linked to global warming.”
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/#summary-statement
First it was global cooling. Then global warming. Next climate change. Now you say global warming again. The proper term is neo marxism.
THAT is man made.
Neo Marxism is unrelated to climate science.
“Neo-Marxism is a Marxist school of thought encompassing 20th-century approaches that amend or extend Marxism and Marxist theory, typically by incorporating elements from other intellectual traditions such as critical theory, psychoanalysis, or existentialism (in the case of Jean-Paul Sartre).” wikipedia
Seriously? Marxism is basically about controlling the means of production. It is not really economics in that it “redistributes” the means of production. Government institutions enrich themselves by this method. Why do you think this “climate change” crap was invented?
The UN came out recently and wants 2 TRILLION A YEAR to cope with climate change impacts. What do you mean neo marxism is unrelated to climate “science?” How about the Socialist party?
https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/33265/03-11-2021/fight-for-socialism-to-end-climate-destruction/
https://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/33265/03-11-2021/fight-for-socialism-to-end-climate-destruction/
https://www.downtoearth.org.in/blog/climate-change/ecosocialism-to-fight-climate-change-48046
This can go on forever.
In case you didn’t hear, the Mississippi river and colorado River are starting to dry up. Also, in Boston last week we had a 70+ degree day recently in NOVEMBER.
I am noticing changes in the weather patterns in my day-to-day life that are bizzare. The weather here was not changing prior to the 2005s-2010s or so. Since then, the weather here has not been making sense. How do you grow crops in an unstable climate?
It is true that global warming and climte change are not strictly speaking the same thing, but In the scientific community (my community, professionally), they are often interchangeable, depending on the context, obviously. Nobody really complains. A (long lasting) change in precipitation, for instance longer droughts, is by definition, a change in the climate, which may be due to global warming.
On the other hand, it is true that a weather event (even an extreme one) may still due to natural variability (i.e. not related to global warming). There is a specific branch in climate science that specifically assesses (attributes) the probability of such events to climate change (basically trying to answer the question: would such event have happened in pre-industrial times?). Many past events (e.g. the heatwave in Canada) have been attributed to antropigenic climate warming. This particular event, I don’t know.
Hurrican Nicole: God is punishing Florida for re-electing Ron DeSanctimonious.
Things to do in with 3 days in Cleveland: Stay in your hotel room and read Hillbilly Elegy.
If nothing else, it might force DeSantis to be a leader and not just a troll for a few days. And to once again get relief money from the federal government and President he claims to disdain.
Enjoy the Cleveland Museum of art. And it’s free….While there the lunch buffet is great. Try the Indian dishes…. Percussion section can enjoy a great mallet shop in Cleveland
What does this have to do with global warming or climate change? Florida is not Hartford, Hereford, or Hampshire where Hurricans hardly ever happen. And yes it is late in the season, but anyone travelling there ought to realize there MIGHT be one. Besides, there is plenty to do in Cleveland and surrounding area.
The Cleveland Museum of Art and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are two musts for a Cleveland visit, at least when The Cleveland Orchestra is out of town
Actually it is called “weather” Hurricanes and tropical storms have visited upon Florida for millennia. Norman should stick to music!
Tip for the orchestra: ask the Cleveland Institute of Music if they are interested in any workshops.
A hurricane IS NOT ‘climate change’.
It is a weather event.
There is a hurricane ‘season’.
Please do not follow the herd and promote so called climate change.
Please see my answer above. It is true that this particular hurricane may be not linked to anthropogenic global warming but simply be a consequence of natural variability. This does not mean that anthropogenic climate warming isn’t a proven (unequivocal) fact, as your post suggests (if I interpret it correctly).
Note that this fact is recognized not only by the (I would say the entire) scientific community, but also by the Governments of nearly every country of the world (including yours), who, for instance, approved word by word (literally word by word) the latest IPCC report, whose first article states: “It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land. Widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and biosphere have occurred. ”
Let’s go back and discuss about music instead…
How about the sun causing the global cooling happening now?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/616937/GLOBAL-COOLING-Decade-long-ice-age-predicted-as-sun-hibernates
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/weather-forecast-nasa-cold-temperatures-16818851
https://www.howestreet.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/220704-Climate-Update-BOB-HOYE.pdf
We are mixing oranges and apples here.
However, just had a quick look to the ‘scientific papers’ posted.
I quote
“The sun is predicted to reach its “solar minimum” low point in 2019 or 2020, according to NASA’s calculations.”
Just for the record, 2019 was one of the hottest year on record.
https://electroverse.net/grand-solar-minimum-101-the-future-looks-cold/
https://electroverse.co/
https://thenewamerican.com/expect-global-cooling-warns-top-climate-scientist-dr-soon/
Ok, my last reply because I am monopolising the forum apologies for that.
More than half (over $1.3 million) of Willie Soon’s total funding since 2001 has come from the oil and electric utility industry (coal). Since 2002, every new grant he has received has been from either oil & coal interests or Donors Trust.
Nothing more to add.
Ok, humour me: what do you call a lot of weather, exceptional weather events that occur with increasing frequency, and according to trends that persist over long durations? Nova Scotia was hit by two hurricanes this summer. “Just a weather event”, no doubt?
About 1 or 2 hurricanes per year hit Canada on average.
A COVID-19 infection IS NOT a pandemic.
A pandemic is caused by transcontinental human migration.
A hurricane IS NOT climate change.
Climate change is caused by gas emissions from human resource transformation, transportation, and habitat expansion.
Climate change is a fact, with or without human intervention. The earth is in a constant state of change. The question – which is difficult to objectively nail down – is just how much human intervention may be accelerating the rate of change. Both extreme view-points on the topic are equally speculative.
The answer seems to be: abandon all nuclear, gas, coal, and petroleum energy sources and rely on wind and solar. Oh, and give more money to the UN so they can fix the problem. Because reasons.
Unfortunately it is not so simple, as there are enormous social and economic aspects that need to be taken into account. This is why policymakers have great difficulties in adopting the policies that scientists think (not now, but at least for the last 30 years) would limit (if not solve) the problem.
But burning oil endlessly and keep wasting resources (water, for instance) is not the solution either.
Even if someone does not believe in anthropogenic climate change (after all there are people who believe the earth is flat), a policy of energy transition towards renewable sources is a win win solution and I can’t really think why anyone should argue with this.
No they are not. First, science is not speculation. We are not discussing which interpretation of a Mahler symphony is the best, which is by definition a subjective choice. There are plenty of scientific works proving the anthropogenic influence on the past and present change in the climate. This is now considered a fact. Period.
And believe me on this because it is my job.
Since music is not my job (I am only an amateur) I would not feel confident in discussing topics I know very little about (e.g the harmonic structure of a complex symphony). It would be desiderable that people who don’t have the background and detailed knowledge of the topic (which, as in any other fields, music included, comes with years of practice) would not try to pass their opinion(or that of someone they have heard from) as the truth.
Thank you.
Thank God “science” can’t be bought off!
So now one can’t look at scientific opinions that disagrees with the “consensus” if we don’t have a degree in the topic? Yes, I know. We’re to stupid to figure out stuff from experts. Kind of reminds me of the “pandemic” which “science” has contradicted itself countless times.
Argument of authority…
That’s not what I meant.
Sorry if I was offensive.
But my point holds. You do need to have a background in the field to understand the complexity of the matter (if it was a simple problem you would not need years of studying to start understanding it).
But let me make an example.
I have a heart condition.
I go to 99 doctors, specialists on the cardiovascular apparatus, who all tell me that I need to stop eating bacon and eggs every day quit smoking and, if this won’t help, undergo surgery.
Then I go to another doctor, let’s say a specialist on the neurological system. He is very famous in his field.
He tells me that my condition has nothing to do with the heart, I need just to take a couple of aspirins and then I can keep following my previous lifestyle.
Now given this situation, which advice would you follow.
The climate change ‘debate’ in the scientific community is so only in the mind of a few skeptics. There is basically no evidence that contrasts the enormous amount of works proving the influence of humans on the climate.
The ‘consensus’ is so because of the countless works supporting it. It is not a preconcept or ideological opinion of the scientists.
Without wanting to be offensive (and repetitive) I think people should trust the specialists, as you would do with the doctors if you had a life threatening condition (or even the electrician/plumber/you name it if you need to fix something in my house! At least I would do so, I would not dare doing it myself. I an not an expert).
On 28th August, Clintel, that describes itself as an independent climate change policy organisation, released a ‘World Climate Declaration’ (WCD) denouncing Climate Emergency. The declaration has been signed by over 1200 signatories from around the world, who are experts in various fields related to climate change and environment studies. The WCD is led by Nobel Laureate Professor Ivar Giaever a renowned physicist and engineer.
This World Climate Declaration questions the integrity of data already published in relation to proving the existence of climate change and its effect on people and the environment. They claim that climate sciences have been overrun by politics and must focus more on empirical science rather than “discussion-based beliefs.”
However, thousands of scientists across the globe disagree.
https://clintel.org/world-climate-declaration/
There is an astonishing amount of fraud in the “science.” That the “consensus” refuses to debate and censors others speaks volumes.
Ok, this is interesting. I have no time to go through the document in detail. Some of the claims are however just wrong (e.g. the assumption that models overestimate the observed warming).
This I think proves exactly my point. Just because something is published on internet even by a nobel laureate (who by the way is not a climatologist, see my example about doctors above) does not mean that it has the same scientific weight of hundreds of works published in the last 30 years that prove the opposite.
In addition, looking very briefly on the net (I can do it too) I found out that
The two main Dutch actors behind the declaration are Guus Berkhout, a retired geophysicist who has worked for oil giant Shell, and journalist Marcel Crok.
Both have been accused of receiving money from fossil fuel companies to finance their climate-sceptic work. They deny the allegations,
When looking closer at the list of signatories, there are precisely 1,107, including six people who are dead. Less than 1% of the names listed describe themselves as climatologists or climate scientists.
Eight of the signatories are former or current employees of the oil giant Shell, while many other names have links to mining companies.
One of the signatories is Ivar Giaever, a joint winner of the Nobel Prize for Physics in 1973 for work on superconductors. However, he has never published any work on climate science.
According to an independent 2019 count of the declaration’s signatories, 21% were engineers, many linked to the fossil fuel industry. Others were lobbyists, and some even worked as fishermen or airline pilots.
See my point?
As for global warming predictions:
https://www.drroyspencer.com/2022/10/50-year-u-s-summer-temperature-trends-all-36-climate-models-are-too-warm/
corruption:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html?ITO=1490
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/10/un_climate_reports_they_lie.html
You try to demonize or mock scientists who disagree with your narrative. That fits right in with the mainstream.
Well, go ahead and do your ad hominem stuff on over 31,000 scientists who disagree:
http://www.petitionproject.org/
3,803 scientists with specific atmospheric, earth and environmental sciences. All signers have the necessary training in physics, chemistry and mathematics to understand and evaluate the scientific data. Including Frederick Seitz, past president of US Academy of Sciences, President Emeritus of Rockfeller University and 32 honorary doctorates from around the world.
Have you ever wondered when you google info it ALWAYS puts out sites first that support whatever narrative there is or sites that “fact check” opposing views?
For example:
The Great Barrington Declaration on the terrible effects of lockdowns, etc. signed by over 60,000 scientists and doctors.
They were (are) ignored or demonized by the establishment. Turns out, they were right.
https://gbdeclaration.org/
I’m not expecting to change your mind but maybe get others to think maybe, just maybe,
there is another side to this.
I said I would not answer anymore….
In the documents supporting the petition you link, the ‘summary of peer reviewed research’ consists of one (1) paper published in 2007 on ( guess what? as we are talking about climate…)
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.
Now I would start wondering why, with so many specialised journals on Climate science, a paper that claims to bring new evidence and be potentially seminal in the field (as it contradicts the mainstream theories and propose a new one) is published on a journal that has nothing to do with the topic in discussion. If you want to talk to scientific community and start a healthy, constructive debate on a topic, make sure to use the right channels of communications, at least.
By the way, the claims of that paper have been proven misleading at least (if not completely wrong) in later papers.
Science deniers are here in force, promoting falsehoods. They have evidently found an accomodating platform.
“Science deniers” LOL. Guess you are enjoying your 20th booster by now whilst living off the grid.
How do you still have internet? Didn’t realize plant-based computing was a thing.
Third booster, early September.
Good luck. I sincerely mean that.
Climate change is a fact – and that’s a fact. Period.
Orchestra tours are useless. That should be ended
Shani made his Cleveland debut at Severance Hall on May 6, 2021.
Might want to correct the last line:
“On Saturday they will play Prokofiev at Severance Hall and on Monday at Carnegie Hall. This will mark Lahav Shani’s debut at both venues.”
So I’ve browsed the “18 Comments” (as of 1:00 a.m., US PST), and I don’t see a single mention of the Israel Philharmonic or conductor Lahav Shani…
The thrust of this blog is… ?
Addendum, an hour later: Of the now-29 comments (including mine), only Mr. Feinsteen’s (above) addresses orchestra and conductor.
Let’s get back to crotchets and quavers, vibrato or lack thereof, period vs. updated stagings, etc., and put aside left vs. right, woke vs. asleep, elite vs. everyman, etc. There may be less vitriol, but more meaningful MUSICAL discussions may ensue.
I’m sorry but I want to keep my own money, not have it confiscated for nonsense.
I have it from one of my work colleagues-formerly of Cleveland, Ohio-that ‘The Bottoms’ is now that town’s liveliest, most hip bar/restaurant/entertainment scenes. And of course, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, the Cleveland Art Museum, and some other places are real highlights of Cleveland – no longer ‘The Mistake By The Lake’.
I was at their concert at Stanford last Monday, other than a full performance of “Romeo and Juliet”, I’ve never seen a full program of Prokofiev (Classical Symphony, R & J Suite #2, and Sympony #5…even a Prokofiev march for an encore). Bing Auditorium at Stanford may be the world’s greatest venue to see a major orchestra, as, like the Berlin Philharmonie, the orchestra is on the floor and the seats are all around in a bowl. Seating only about 800 and mostly wood surfaces, the sound is spectacular and the intimacy is unique. For this one, I sat in the first row behind the tympanist…I had never noticed the wonderful and complex part for tympani in the Classical Symphony before.
The orchestra and Shani- as do most performers in this hall – seemed to understand the uniqueness of the venue and just how special it is to have a place to so closely connect with an audience. They put on a wonderful performance that was much appreciated.
Hope they enjoy the rich musical legacy Cleveland has to offer.
so is this force majeur and does the IPO still get paid?
Sights to see in Cleveland
https://www.wrhs.org/crawford/
https://www.rockhall.com/
https://www.clevelandart.org/
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