Scientists say cellists have more stress than violinists

Scientists say cellists have more stress than violinists

Orchestras

norman lebrecht

October 03, 2024

Scientists at King’s College London believe they can accurately predict changes in musicians’ heart rates while playing.

The experiment collected data on the heart rates of musicians playing the Andante con moto from Schubert’s Trio No. 2. The findings published in Frontiersreveal that:

  • Pushing towards a climax led to a significant increase in heart rate.
  • Playing loudly also increased heart rate, including more than playing faster.
  • The players’ cardiac signals were remarkably correlated during passages where they played in tandem, despite playing different instruments with different physical demands.
  • Difficult or risky passages also predicted heart rate changes – in particular for the cellist but less so for the violinist.

Now why is that?

Comments

  • Pianofortissimo says:

    Science for the sake of science. For the most part useless.

  • Vadis says:

    Because the cello is bigger.

    (Damn, sometimes you just gotta wonder about scientists, I am nominating this article for the Ig Nobel Prize, it won’t win because it’s not dumb or funny enough, but it’s pretty dumb.)

  • Rachael Montesino Young says:

    Maybe it’s caused by having to deal with all those highly strung players

  • Larry W says:

    The picture is Emperor Naruhito of Japan playing the viola.

  • DG says:

    I’m a cellist with a daughter who is a violinist. Cello requires a different level of physical exertion to play because of its size. Both are equally difficult to play well, IMO, but the amount of pressure needed to get a sound out of a cello is different than violin.

  • Barry says:

    Interesting.

    Where do viola players fit in?

  • Ich bin Ereignis says:

    Making such generalizations based on a single movement, a Schubert Trio Andante of all things, seems highly questionable to me. Was the culprit the particular instrument being played, the piece itself, the players’ cardiovascular fitness, or their technical level and quality of prior preparation?

    A more accurate study would be to measure, for instance, heart rates of the entire Cello and Violin I sections of an orchestra playing Götterdämmerung. There, I suspect, you might get wildly different results.

    Not that this should be a contest. I’m not really sure what such studies prove, anyway. But to suggest that cellists are more stressed than other instruments based on that one experiment alone seems frankly rather asinine. I can guarantee you that violinists are far from immune from stress, due both to the technical demands of the instrument as well as to certain psychological traits rather common to them, such as competitiveness and narcissism.

  • Max Raimi says:

    Why? Maybe because the cellist was more high strung by nature.
    It would be extremely difficult to devise a finer example of junk science. You have a sample size of one violinist and one cellist. And then you draw conclusions from it. Can’t you find something better to post, Norman?

  • John Borstlap says:

    For non-musicians, this may be all very interesting and groundbreaking news. How come! Music stimulates the nervous system and heart function, because of bodily efforts and emotional engagement.

    For professionals in the practice of concert life (REAL professionals that is, NOT retired, spiteful, embittered teachers at Respectable Institutions who can only look from behind the fence of their restricted territory into the live music zoo), this is a wide-open door and nothing unusual or even interesting. Being involved in concert life means STRESS and STRESS and again STRESS. Even composers, quietly working in their sound proof studio, surrounded by a plethora of silent scores, books and CD’s, with their PA and other women folk in other rooms, experience stress, especially when they cannot get a transition right, like [redacted] and [redacted] or forgot the range of the heckelphone.

    And yes, the bigger the instrument, the more intense the stress levels. This explains the calm countenances of the piccolo and triangle players, and the hysteria of organists.

    If someone here feels again the urge to reach-out for the thumb-down button, here is proof:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2AOVXQmYvc

  • Clay Ruede says:

    It takes more physical effort to play the cello, and that is in addition to carrying the instrument before, during, and after a performance. A cellist has to work harder to project sound than a violinist or pianist. More effort equals greater effort of the heart to support it.

  • John says:

    Even though violinists are more high strung?

  • Guest Principal says:

    Cellists experience more stress because they’re constantly wondering what the hell the violinists are going to do next.

    • John Borstlap says:

      Viola players carry the burden of heavy stress suppression because whatever they do, nobody is going to notice and still they got to get things right, otherwise they get the angry looks of the conductor again and the usual jokes in the locker room.

  • Robert says:

    Cellists? Stress?

    I recall the cellist who taught the “Low Strings Methods” class when I was a music education major.

    Every statement was posed as a complaint and every question answered with a retort.

  • Fred Funk says:

    With a standard battery of five questions, cross referenced, the Voight-Kampf is the best way to identify the underperforming viola players.

    • Larry W says:

      Here’s your question, Phred: Why are you so jealous of viola players that you make these comments betraying your feelings of inadequacy?

  • Steve says:

    Violists like …

  • Gerry McDonald says:

    Try playing a Bach obbligato on baroque oboe or proper baroque trumpet without holes and THEN you’ll know what stress is about!

  • Kurt says:

    Title says cellist and violinist, so let’s put a picture of a violist, they don’t do stress but they stress everyone else out

  • Roger Rocco says:

    Did anyone try to fly with a cello? You have to purchase an extra seat and they still hassle you! Of course it’s more stressful. Ditto for tuba players!

  • Igor says:

    Violinists don’t really care what and how they play

  • BenHarmonics says:

    It’s obvious that cello is more physically demanding than violin. You’re supporting a much bigger instrument, and all the movements involved in playing are bigger. Double bass is even more physically demanding.

  • Thatmusician says:

    This is a study based on one trio. The title of your article should be “ SCIENTISTS SAY THAT CELLIST HAVE MORE STRESS THAN THAT VIOLINIST”. Not to be generalized.

  • Charlotte says:

    Since when is physical exertion the same as stress? Of course the cellist‘s heartrate was higher, playing cello is physically more demanding, that doesn’t mean at all that playing the violin is less stressful.

  • Save the MET says:

    Try the orchestra oboeists, they will always be the most stressed and slightly insane due to making their own reeds and the fixatives required.

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