Putin congratulates a loyal violinist
UncategorizedLoyalty works both ways.
The violinist and chamber orchestra conductor Vladimir Spivakov has been quick to sign manifestos in support of the Russian president.
This weekend, the Kremlin reciprocated by publishing a 70th birthday telegram from Putin to his court violinist. It says, among other fond things: ‘Thank you for your many years of work and devotion to art, to the entire Russian society, our homeland, (and) for your enormous contribution to the increase of the national cultural heritage. ‘
Got that? Now read Gidon Kremer (here)…. And share.
Vladimir Spivakov: He’s a 3rd rate violinist, and 5th rate conductor with the brownest nose in the business. He’s a manipulative, back-stabbing coward with no conscience whatever, who has been publicly reviled by a world-class Russian conductor as “a typical Russian schmuck”.
Is there such a thing as Russian “World class conductor ” ?Haven’t run across a Russian musician who wasn’t
a” typical ……etc. etc.
Is there such a thing as Russian “World class conductor ”
Bychkov, Soghiev, Gergiev, V Jurowsky, D Jurowsky, M Jurowsky, K Petrenko, V Petrenko… and that’s just the start….
Hey Milka, funny that I just read the Holender interview and saw that:
“The Bavarian State Opera, has been one of the important, but not the most important opera houses in Europe. Now something has changed through directors, singers and an exceptional conductor, Kirill Petrenko, which came from the Russian countryside. He became general music director at the Bavarian State Opera where he now achieves extraordinary results. He emerged through small houses like the People’s Opera, Meiningen, the Komische Oper”.
– See more at: https://slippedisc.com/2014/09/ex-vienna-opera-chief-korngold-is-no-less-important-than-richard-strauss/#sthash.1rwpo18k.dpuf
Funny: when the Kremer rant goes down in flame… bring up Spivakov, or Gergiev or Netrebko to rekindle the bash.
The “flame” is in the eye of the beholder only.
Bychkov,Soghiev, Gergiev, & all the Jurowskis’ and Petrenkos etc . etc . do
not add up to one so called world
class conductor whatever its meaning .Why any one would want to “bash”
Netrebko is beyond understanding, as
she is so inconsequential as a singer .
Bychkov,Soghiev, Gergiev, & all the Jurowskis’ and Petrenkos etc . etc . do not add up to one so called world class conductor
Perhaps you could tell us all who you think the “world class conductors” of the present generation are, then??
Are you a musician yourself, “Milka”?? Perhaps you could tell us?
Yuri Temirkanov, Gennady Rozhdestvensky = 2 giants of the podium
Yes, agreed! But I doubt we will hear from “Milka”….
Kondrashin and Mravinskij, two more giants.
Well if I must … I know music and know
it quite well .. enough to observe
that even with the latest two mentioned by
Allformmusic the Russian conductors
in this age of immediacy are
rather provincial in their musical
outlook as are most Russians.
What is actually meant by the ridiculous
“world class ” attribution ?
I knew that you wouldn’t be able to answer. And you failed to answer.
A pile of empty accusations – and then you couldn’t name a single conductor???
It is not a “pile of empty accusations” just an observation .
Once you are able to define “world class ” a ridiculous empty
description one suspects being coined by a travel agent, we may be able to
steer you to a conductor fitting such a
description , certainly wouldn’t want
to direct you to a “non world class”
type of conductor .As for Turchev, Mr.
Kirill Petrenko may meet Turchev’s
standards but sadly doesn’t come up
to mine .
So you still refuse to name a single world-standard conductor, and instead persist in ad hominem off-topic insults….
I frankly doubt you are familiar with classical music in any way at all. You are simply trolling this thread to make political points – and failing dismally.
Well, “Milka”, we get the picture now.
You made racist claims about Russians, saying that no Russian was able to be a world-class conductor.
But when you were asked – three times – to name any conductor you would consider world-class… you couldn’t. Because you don’t know any conductors at all. You don’t know the work of any of the Russian conductors who have been mentioned here, by a number of different members.
If you think your “cause” has been advanced by the posts you’ve made – you’ve failed.
I think Mr. Lebrecht is trying to draw our attention to one important point here, namely the difference between the Kremer-like and the Spivakov-like types of attitude. But then, Kremer has always been independent of the Russian authorities having cut ties with the former USSR already in his young years, while Spivakov’s work has been deeply rooted in Russia, a fundamental difference between the two.
Actually, Kremer, throughout his career, has been performing more new and recent music written by his Soviet and Russian contemporaries than Spivakov ever did, so one might say that the former’s work may be rooted in Russian culture even deeper than the latter’s. The real fundamental difference is that Spivakov has always been doing everything that was necessary to be among the favorites of whoever was in power at the time, regardless of ideology or any other principled considerations – while Kremer always stayed as far from the government as he possibly could, even when doing so was riskier than it is now.