Thielemann to Currentzis: Dump the dirty money

Thielemann to Currentzis: Dump the dirty money


norman lebrecht

May 02, 2022

The leading German conductor has advised the Greek-Russian upstart how to re-enter the maninstream.

In a report by Bohema magazine (Vienna), Thielemann said:

„Wäre ich ein Veranstalter, würde ich Currentzis jetzt wahrscheinlich trotzdem einladen, er müsste sich nur irgendwie vom schmutzigen Geld befreien“ „Auch wenn ich musikalisch oft anderer Meinung bin, schätze ich sehr, dass es nie langweilig ist, was er macht.“

‘If I were an organizer, I probably still would invite Currentzis now. He would only have to distance himself somehow from the dirty money. I appreciate it very much, that the things he does are never boring, even if I often don’t agree with him musically.’

Currentzis, whose orchestra has been fiunded by Putin’s VTB bank, is still expecting to appear at bthis summer’s Salzburg Festival.

More here.


  • chet says:

    Show me who has clean money.

    Mercedes Benz? Nestlé? SNCF?

    Salzburg? Baden-Baden? Aix-en-Provence?

    • IP says:

      Show me anything clean about TC

    • Corentzis is toast says:

      whataboutism is alive and well here!
      Correntzis “distance himself somehow from the dirty money”

      haha what a joke!

      The experience in Perm proves Correntzis is dirt itself.
      Another of the thiefs and robbers Navalny so aptly described in united Russia.

      Correntzis IS united with the same filthy pigs that scribe Z Z Z Z swastikas everywhere.
      Prove it ain’t so!

      Revoke all schengen visas to his Russian orchestra players.
      It’s the only thing he will take notice of.

    • Gustavo says:

      And all that Nazi-gold behind the facades of Bayreuth, the woke-washing through the sybolic excommunication of Mickisch who was not brown at all.

  • William Osborne says:

    Never mind that the EU sends $285 million to Putin every day for gas and oil.

    • Sue Sonata Form says:

      You can thank the loony Greens for that!!

    • Tamino says:

      Yes. Trade is a peace maker. If we stop buying his oil and gas, he might as well bomb us with nukes, we are not useful anymore.
      Ask the Swiss how they lived in peace for so long…

      • William Osborne says:

        In some respects, I agree. It is exactly the trade with Russia that might help lead to a peaceful resolution that could be acceptable to all. Though I must say, Switzerland has lived in peace for so long because others have made enormous sacrifices that allowed Switzerland to continue to exist. It not only lives on the money the rich and criminals hide, but on the blood of all of us.

        • Sue Sonata Form says:

          Good comments; I must say I’ve thought the same for decades. They became the repository for European wealth which they still do; though modern stool-pigeons are making that increasingly difficult.

  • Lol says:

    There is this conventionally accepted narrative about Thielemann being a racist right-winger. That’s fake news for you! Every time he speaks, I hear a progressive, liberal, open-minded individual. I first realised how misleading and untrue the public opinion of him was when I read this 1993 interview of him:
    That’s the moment that made me go ‘wow, propaganda and brainwashing is real!’.

    • William Osborne says:

      The article you link doesn’t reveal anything about Thielemann’s political views. It’s only about music. He comes closest to the political when he says:

      “I had a wild period. In Berlin we say ‘Berliner Schnauzer,’ and that means the ‘Berlin mouth’ which can be quite open.”

      He’s made statements that have been perceived as uncomfortably far to the right which he might be referring too. These include statements that seemed to support the far-right AfD party, and some statements about Barenboim that were seen by some as inappropriate. Some seem to feel he has unusually nationalistic and ethnocentric musical views which adds to the discomfort. I think he is mellowing and learning to keep his mouth shut.

    • Sue Sonata Form says:

      Indeed. And the inquisitorial commissars of the Left and its media have perpetuated myths about Thielemann because he needed to be “scolded”.

      • Amos says:

        When you become famous and espouse publicly Australia for Australians you will be a true kindred spirit with CT. No inquisition just a pair of right-wing fascists spouting off.

      • Herr Doktor says:

        Darling Sue, shouldn’t you instead be praising that very strong and visionary leader Vladimir Putin who you so deeply admire, instead of commenting here?

        More than that, isn’t it wrong of you to be cheating yourself by taking time away from your deep immersion into the many writings and videos of your hero Jordan Peterson?

        • Sue Sonata Form says:

          Low resolution thinking, so well described by the good doctor!!! Thank you for behaving to type.

    • Herr Doktor says:

      In 1993, Tucker Carlson was not the openly racist, xenophobe, neo-Nazi that he is in 2022.

      I can’t speak to Christian Thielemann’s political beliefs. But when enough of what he has said has made it to the U.S., his comments sure don’t remind me of Annalena Baerbock.

      • Amos says:

        In ~ 2000 Tucker was playing the part of the preppy William F Buckley wanna be complete with bow ties. Shortly after John Stewart dismantled him on CNN he morphed into the neo-fascist he now plays on fox.

      • Sue Sonata Form says:

        Oh, is THAT what it takes to be the most successful TV anchor in the USA? I was wondering.

        Instead of hurling abusive names at successful people – as you like to do here – why not go for some success yourself, just to see what it looks like.

        Hopefully the commissars of conformity won’t come after you – but I don’t think you’ll get that far.

        • Amos says:

          Low resolution gaslighting, disinformation and adherence to totalitarian talking points clearly have an audience in the USA and at least 1 household in Australia. Your full-throated, if inarticulate, embrace of all things malevolent is frightening and unfortunate but can’t be ignored lest we repeat the tragedy of the 1930’s.

        • Amos says:

          Sorry, I meant to add that per fox news tucker is not an anchor because that would imply that he is a reporter and thus libel laws would apply to his nightly spewing of stream of consciousness. Even your countryman rupert admits that 3 hours from 8-10 PM ET is merely opinion/entertainment.

      • Fritz Grantler says:

        “Neo-NazI” Carlson ? What a stupid comment – non- Germans cannot be “Nazis ” – idiot ! Enough of “Nazi” ,”Fascist” , and “Communist ” accusations…You do not agree with his views ? Neither do I…so stop the silly name calling…

  • Rob says:

    Big talk from Mr boring. The only ‘conductor’ to make Bruckner’s 8th Symphony sound/smell like a big lump of past its sell by date ham.

    • Fritz Grantler says:

      So you don`t like his conditioning
      ? Do not go to his concerts – Case closed . Another useless comment on this site….

  • Stephan von Cron says:

    Jawohl Christian, aber wenn er schon von mehreren grossen Orchestern auf Grund seiner Inkompetenz verhasst ist (zum Beispiel an der Pariser Oper), sollte er es sich eher überlegen ein neues Kammerorchester zu gründen, wobei er frei schalten, walten und terrorisieren kann!
    Frage bleibt eben, wer wagt es, wenn nicht rein politisch, so etwas zu finanzieren?!

  • Jansci says:

    Virtue signaling by T that is all it is!!! perhaps spiced with some professional jealousy!!!