2 sacked players are restored to NY Philharmonic roster
mainPrincipal Oboe Liang Wang and Associate Principal Trumpet Matthew Muckey are listed again from today as current members of the NY Philharmonic.
The pair had their misconduct dismissal overturned two weeks ago by an independent arbitrator.
The whole Wang thing seems quite Muckey to me.
From the department of WTF??!!:
https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Pianist-Yuja-Wang-at-23-already-a-presence-3185358.php
By Joshua Kosman Published 4:00 am PDT, Thursday, June 17, 2010
“Also, my boyfriend, Matthew Muckey, who is a trumpet player with the New York Philharmonic, is from Sacramento; we met three years ago when I was performing with the orchestra. I would live in San Francisco if I could, but you know, it’s just too far away.”
From the department of did she just say that?
https://www.inquirer.com/philly/entertainment/arts/20100425_One_fine_number.html
Yuja Wang plays – and lives – with a spirit of independence
by David Patrick Stearns, Inquirer Music Critic, Posted: April 25, 2010
“As for her outer life, she jokes that she would rather have a dog than a boyfriend. But with her travel schedule, a boyfriend is more viable, hers being New York Philharmonic trumpeter Matthew Muckey, whom she has nicknamed “M&M.” Her own preoccupation with creating a high-quality sound is reflected by her description of his: “The way he plays, it’s almost like an oboe….”
Old news. She probably went through dozens already.
Now that she is not touring she can finally get a dog. Or kittens, perhaps.
What I have been wondering with this case is: Weren’t their careers basically over? Who would hire them after being dismissed amid such allegations? Their reputations were destroyed. So it’s not just a matter of getting their jobs in the orchestra back. Big stakes.
Or, the Orchestra abiding by the ruling because it has currently got more important things to think about and, perhaps, letting them get the benefits of furlough with the rest of the players so they will at least have bread on their tables during a national crisis. I would anticipate that when business as usual resumes, they will be quietly sidelined in one way or another.
I’ll bet you a million gold doubloons they perform their roles according to their contracts. That is business as usual in an orchestra.
Why on earth would you think that their careers are over? They again have good jobs with a prominent orchestra. Sounds good to me.
He said WERE, not ARE. (As in, if they had lost these jobs, it’s a question whether any other orchestra would have hired them, no matter how good they are.)
Bruce, thank you very much for explaining to me that I misunderstood the original post. Of course you are absolutely correct. What can I say….English is not my best language!
Don’t worry. Many native English speakers are not very good at English either.
What a Jaap in the face!!!!
Metoo survivors.
Thanks for checking, Matt!
Sorry, one of the other apostles
The statement “as of today” is just not factual. Muckey and Wang and their pictures were already posted on the New York Philharmonic on the website last week. I know because I looked!! They were reposted well before today, 4/21.
Has it been confirmed for a fact that their initial alleged “misconduct” was indeed sexual harassment or threats against female musicians. Was it two separate incidents or the both of them harassing one female?
In any case, the misconduct was investigated, a verdict was rendered, then overturned on appeal. No matter how heinous their actions may or may not have been, it seems like all proper legal procedures were followed by all parties concerned.
Not just misconduct, harassment or threats. They used a drug to rape a colleague. This is much worse than what many still think is acceptable behavior.
These are unproven allegations, rejected by the arbitrator. Please be aware of your legal liabilities.
Im in the biz. Many NY PHIL friends. Im told it is true
And I should note, I’m not the same “anon” as the first poster in this sub thread.
If so, they remain entirely silent. Silent complicity in sexual abuse is a social disease of classical music.
The arbiter decided it wasn’t true.
I have no personal knowledge of this case, but it is worth keeping in mind that grievance procedures with arbitration as a final step are a typical feature of American collective bargaining agreements. This is true across all industries so it is not unique to orchestras. Whether to abide by the arbitrator’s decision isn’t really up to the NYPO. They have a contractual obligation to do so. And overturning an arbitration in court is extremely difficult. It is not enough for an appealing party to show that the arbitrator misapplied the facts or law, or that the arbitrator was incompetent. The arbitrator’s behavior must have been particularly egregious, such as showing extreme bias or other misconduct for a court to get involved after the fact.
Whether or not one agrees with the reinstatements, the fact is that the NYPO has a contract with its musicians, that contract includes an arbitration provision for the resolution of grievances, and the NYPO must abide by an arbitrator’s decision.
Dumb and Dummer
The accuser herself did not take it beyond the NYP internal process. She could still go to the police, and/or sue the accused in civil court, and/or go public with a sympathetic journalist or news outlet.
We can’t be more outraged than the victim herself.
This article was already posted where the author “administrator” is selectively posting comments, this website is asking for a lawsuit. I hope they have good lawyers.
Well it looks like Muckey is back: https://youtu.be/h8uzgmAs47w