Two NY Philharmonic players are erased from the record

Two NY Philharmonic players are erased from the record

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norman lebrecht

October 25, 2018

The names of Liang Wang and Matthew Muckey, principal oboe and associate principal trumpet, have vanished from the website roster of Philharmonic players, following their dismissal for misconduct a month ago.

At the time it was stated that ‘at the request of their union, the Philharmonic delayed the implementation of the termination and placed the musicians on an unpaid leave of absence.’

The position now is that the pair are officially terminated. The dismissals are being disputed by the two musicians and will, we understand, be arbitrated.

But it looks like there’s no way back.

Comments

    • Mark says:

      Yes, Doug, exactly.
      Only this time it’s the w(b)itches who are doing the accusing …

    • Emil says:

      What part of The NY Phil conducted an exhaustive investigation do you not understand?

      • Mark says:

        Emil, you are what happens when boys are raised by shrewish feminist mothers to think and act like girls

        • jaypee says:

          mark, you are what happens when people get a lousy education from their parents and try to get even with society by being an asshole, and insulting people they’ve never met.
          Let me guess, you support cretin donald, right?

          • Mick the Knife says:

            So either you have met Trump or you just shot yourself in the foot. lol

          • Mark says:

            Let me guess, jaypee, you’ve been crying over the Old Shrew for the last 2 years ? Sorry, I do not do
            “sensitive”

          • Saxon Broken says:

            Actually, it is the behaviour of someone with a sense of entitlement over the “hoi polloi” and believes he can treat other people with contempt. A frat-t**t. Unfortunately, the US enables it (allowing the rich to buy privilege and advantage) in a way Europe, being much more egalitarian, does not.

        • Emil says:

          You mean I’m not a bully who thinks the world revolves around me? Thanks, I’ll take the compliment.

        • Emil says:

          By the way, Mr Lebrecht, what’s moderation for if these kinds of personal attacks pass through your filter?

      • Bill says:

        Doug’s perceived threats to his manhood is a regular feature of this site. Pay him no heed.

      • jaypee says:

        dog supports cretin donald the pussy grabber. Do I need to say more?

  • Itsjtime says:

    How about the lady from Baltimore in that position ? She sounds pretttty good.

    • Gene in Baltimore says:

      Agreed, but we don’t want to give up Ms. Needleman

    • Doug says:

      Pretty good at filing frivolous lawsuits about nonexistent sexual harassment. She’ll have every last male member of the orchestra booted out in two years. Maybe then Norman might be happy about the number of women in one orchestra.

  • joe Gallagher says:

    It doesn’t seem like there are many secrets left to us these days. Why here? Are we left to assume the worst?

  • Enguiring Mind says:

    So are they freelancing now or what?

  • conlly says:

    Ouch!
    It must take a lot of no good mischief to get fired from such a prestigious orchestra; especially if you’re unionized. Short of messing up a solo three concerts in a row, you really have to “work” to get fired from a major symphony orchestra.

    No bother… Almost anyone these days can be replaced by a good high-level young musician, so it’s no bother for the NY Phil.

  • Art Serating says:

    Not only are their names missing from the personnel list in the program, but their photographs that hang in the lobby have also been removed.

  • Jasper says:

    The abrupt departure (termination?, retirement?, resignation?) of Philip Myers from the NY Phil occurred quietly, with no press attention whatever; no mention of such by everyone’s favorite NY Times critic. There was no public explanation offered, either from Myers, the NY Phil, or anyone else.

    By contrast, the termination of Liang Wang and Matthew Muckey has attracted widespread speculation. Why the difference?

    Jasper

    • Enquiring Mind says:

      Myers was 66. Maybe his leaving wasn’t so shocking. But you have a point. The SD rumor was that he was fired on tour for something involving another musician. But nothing much else was said.

    • Bill says:

      Meyers officially “resigned” as opposed to being fired.
      Most likely he was compelled to do so, but he had 30+ years with the orchestra, so he had a pretty nice pension waiting for him. Neither of these players had that luxury, as they haven’t been with the orchestra for that long, so they had every reason to try and fight for their jobs and not exit as “gracefully” as Myers did.

      • Bill says:

        One might have even thought that would provide motivation not to get into a position where they had to fight for their jobs, at least until their position was more secure. Apparently not.

        • Bill says:

          In one of these musician’s case, at least one of the allegations that resulted in his termination happened years before the Myer’s resignation. If he did learn from Meyer’s fate, it was too little, too late, to save himself.

  • Ben says:

    Who says American is all American. This sounds like how Communist erase people from history.

    🙂

  • nyc musician says:

    yeah. drugging and gang rapping will end your career.
    forget about getting them fired. when are they going to jail?
    liang wang is an awful person. look into him a bit deeper and find out about him [redacted: defamation]

    • Anonymous says:

      whoa, I didn’t know that. I’m a young oboist myself and I was hoping to study with Mr. Wang. Where can I find more info about these incidents?

      • Malcolm James says:

        Probably nowhere, because these are just allegations, albeit very serious ones. For the time being, maybe they should be taken with a pinch of salt, even if Liang Wang isn’t a particularly nice person.

    • Anon1 says:

      Are these facts or “things you’ve heard”? Posting material like this has serious ramifications.

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