Have CDs got skinnier?

I just withdrew this new release from my player and it cracked.

Are major labels saving on raw materials?


Anyone else experience this?

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  • Even very cheap supermarket blank CD-Rs don’t usually crack like this (and sometimes it’s a struggle to free CDs from the player, whatever the type/quality of CD), so I suspect it’s a one-off fault.

    • Actually, the sometimes-struggle of freeing the CD is not usually from the player, but from the CD case in which it comes. They often bend alarmingly, but in my experience to-date don’t crack.

  • The only cd I’ve ever broken withdrawing it from its case was also a Deutsche Grammophon cd – as I see yours is. A month ago – first cd I’ve ever broken since they were introduced!

        • The way it’s going, the German car industry will within the next 20-30 years be as defunct as some of DG’s Archiv recordings.

      • Their cars are fine. The question is why they are singled out among all the international car manufacturers who almost all have done essentially the same. Forging the software to comply with (unrealistic) regulations. It’s a war. And this time, Germany didn’t start it…
        (it’s an interesting deep history research topic and discussion, who actually started the other wars as well…)

        • It seems conspiracy theorists are alive and well, on here as elsewhere. Oh we poor Germans, so hard done by.

          As to your final paragraph, it would be wise to avoid allusions to or discussions of ‘brown’ revisionism and similar attempts to rewrite history.

          • Stop the irrational nonsense. Of course it was no accident that US authorities started to single out the biggest German manufacturer. Now you could certainly call the Germans a bit naive, for not being better prepared.
            As for the world wars, go study history a bit more, and look especially for the money trail.

    • Of course! Very versatile medium. I can take a cd and play it in the big hi-fi in the sitting room of the radio/cd machine in the kitchen or the little stereo in the back bedroom. Or put it in my Walkman or the car stereo or take it to a friend’s house.

      Of take it to the hi-fi shop to hear on a £100,000 system! And, best of all, it belongs to ME!

      • Many (most?) big high-fis and mini-stereos alike produced in the last decade have included a USB port, so you can also keep your music in MP3 files and move them around from one device to another. I still buy CDs heavily (even if I just rip them once to my media center and then never touch them again) because I like maintaining a library of shelves for home decoration, but let’s be serious, the format no longer has some special flexibility that other formats don’t.

        • I like them not for their flexibility but for their stability. You don’t lose a CD if your hard drive crashes, or if you accidentally erase it.

        • Just in case you’re not aware of it, MP3 files are lower resolution than the files on CDs. With even moderately-good reproduction equipment, the difference is readily noticeable. I recommend covering CDs to lossless file formats, and purchasing higher-quality files online.

          • Indeed, MP3 is not a lossless compression format. But I seriously doubt that you could hear a difference with any hifi systems, even the 100K ones, if the conversion is done with a proper mp3 codec at 320kbps.

            Don’t overrate the ability of your hifi ears, they are not that capable as you believe. And that have been demonstrated over and over again with scientific methods. If you haven’t watched it, please attend this Audio Myth Workshop, a compulsory course for any audiophile.


    • Sure, about 70% of the German recordings market is still physical.

      The greatest thing about a CD is that you can actually own it.
      Unlike the brave new world that is coming, where you can’t have property anymore, only pay a lease to the feudal lords, err I mean to the wonderful corporations who provide the service.

  • As I recall, the Redbook standard included thickness of material—this became an issue with Dual Discs [remember them?] that Sony claimed were potentially unplayable [even as Sony proceeded to manufacture Dual Discs]. Polycarbonate is a cheap plastic, but as someone else pointed out, the packaging these days is getting cheaper, potentially leading to accidents like yours. Just got the Takacs Quartet complete set of Beethoven Quartets, couldn’t get all the CDs out of the box without damaging the container they came in.

  • Reminds me of the LP days when RCA “invented” LPs that were thinner than the standard and sort of “floppy”. they tended to warp easily. Terrible invention.

    Unfortunately, most of Erich Leinsdorf’s LP recordings with the Boston Symphony were pressed on these discs and the sound suffered as well.

  • I spread Frank Cooper’s Oxford Marmalade on mine and they still play well never have a problem at all getting them out of the cd player. LOL.

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