Danish symphonist wins quarter of a million Euros

The Ernst von Siemens prize for 2016 was awarded today to Per Norgard, 83.

Good composer. Nice top-up for his pension fund.

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  • I have understood that he has not made much money with his compositions but works in quite modest surroundings, like many other composers. If that’s the case then the money are well-deserved.

  • Dear Adrian!
    The main dispute is about the so called ‘jewelery law’ where refugees will only receive social security, when they have used the value of belongings exceeding 1000£ – the same conditions to danish citizens receiving social security (dull)
    The same is the case in many other countries – among else Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Norway. – In Norway – where there also was a lot of sarcastic comments about ‘the jewelery law’ in Denmark The national broadcaster, NRK, had to admit that in Norway refugees and social clients got no support if they had possessions valued more than 500 £, while it in Denmark is 1000£ now 😉
    According to IMF (2015) the fiscal costs for refugees in Denmark is 0,47% of GDP. Only Sweden has slightly more, 0,5%. – UK 0,016% !!! …. and Germany – ‘they all talk about’ used 0,20% og GDP …. In addition only us ‘oil sheiks’ here in Norway pays more developing aid than Denmark.

    Of all countries in EU plus Norway and Switzerland, only Rumania gives permanent staying permission to a higher share of asylum applicants. – Denmark 82% and romania 91% – UK 36%. …… But VERY few applies in Rumania, where they’ll be very poor.

    The reason for the high refugee costs in Denmark is that refugees – from day one – are paid equal to danish receivers of social security – which is around 1000£/month plus housing. It was this ‘gift’ that was reduced to what people under education get – namly 500£
    – In most of the eastern European countries and all the southern European countries, they get nothing ….. so no complaints about a reduction there!!!! LOL

    Maybe people within the highly subsidised ‘world of classical music’ should be more careful about checking realities, before they make fun of those, who pay the subsidies?

    Greetings Peder Wirstad

  • Composers don’t need any money. That’s why they never get some. Therefore, this is wonderful news…. retroactive money for retroactive music.

  • Dear Adrian!
    The main dispute is about the so called ‘jewelery law’ where refugees will only receive social security, when they have used the value of belongings exceeding 1000£ – the same conditions to danish citizens receiving social security (dull)
    The same is the case in many other countries – among else Germany, Holland, Switzerland and Norway. – In Norway – where there also was a lot of sarcastic comments about ‘the jewelery law’ in Denmark The national broadcaster, NRK, had to admit that in Norway refugees and social clients got no support if they had possessions valued more than 500 £, while it in Denmark now is 1000£ now 😉
    According to IMF (2015) the fiscal costs for refugees in Denmark is 0,47% of GDP. Only Sweden has slightly more, 0,5%. – UK 0,016% !!! …. and Germany – ‘they all talk about’ used 0,20% og GDP …. In addition only us ‘oil sheiks’ here in Norway pays more developing aid than Denmark.

    Of all countries in EU plus Norway and Switzerland, only Rumania gives permanent staying permission to a higher share of asylum applicants. – Denmark 82% and romania 91% – UK 36%. …… But VERY few applies in Rumania, where they’ll be very poor.

    The reason for the high refugee costs in Denmark is that refugees – from day one – are paid equal to danish receivers of social security – which is around 1000£/month plus housing. It was this ‘gift’ that was reduced to what people under education get – namly 500£
    – In most of the eastern European countries and all the southern European countries, they get nothing ….. so no complaints about a reduction there!!!! LOL

    Maybe people within the highly subsidised ‘world of classical music’ should be more careful about checking realities, before they make fun of those, who pay the subsidies?

    Greetings Peder Wirstad

  • Dear Adrian!
    According to IMF only Sweden uses slightly more of GDP on refugees 0,5% versus 0,45%. – UK 0,16%
    Most countries – also UK – have the same rules that receivers of social security have to use their own fortune before receiving from the state. – Danish citizens as well, and now the government wanted to give refugees the same status.
    Only Rumania allows a bigger part of asylum applicants permanent stay. – 91% versus 86%. – UK 36%.

    Greetings Peder Wirstad

  • OK, – in all the comments above, not a single mention of Mr. Nørgård’s music. I see his list includes 8 symphonies, 11 concertos and 6 operas. I only know one of his choral works, “Wie ein Kind”, a remarkable 15 minute work that sets poetry by Swiss poet Adolf Wölfli, and is widely regarded as one of the most important contemporary Danish choral works. Any other recommendations on his instrumental music from those in the know?

  • Try the 8 symphonies. No 2 is his longest exposition of the ‘infinity series’ that he devised, and that gives him a place in the history of maths. The quite recent no. 8 well sums up his individual, eccentric composerly approach: quirky, sometimes dark, sometimes amusing. A deserving winner of this prize.

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